This my response to the post of Sharing ni Franco which he also repost on other Pages of Leni Robredo. He explains the difference between faithfulness and indifference but the content is more on his protest, his own view and opinion to the Fiducia Supplican document released by Vatican.
In quotes are his statement and color blue are my response.
Many confused faithfulness with indifference. Faithfulness is abiding to commandments of God regardless of the cost. Indifference is playing safe so as not to displease people and preserve unity. Who is the supreme arbiter in the church? The pope. What will be his basis on this role? The deposit of faith.
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Many unfortunately equates the pope as some oracle whose words whatever these are as standard by itself. They misunderstand pope infallibility as whatever he says regardless of the deposit of faith absolutely demands our obedience. The standard is the deposit of faith alone precisely why even in exercising his teaching authority, the pope declares dogma ex cathedra (from the seat of pete) based on what is already in the deposit.
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All the Christian faithful are obliged to observe the constitutions and decrees which the legitimate authority of the Church issues in order to propose doctrine and to proscribe erroneous opinions, particularly those which the Roman Pontiff or the college of bishops puts forth. – Can. 754
He cant invoke his office for example to suddenly implement novelty such as same sex marriage or even just blessing them as a couple. This is/are not from the deposit of faith.
This is exactly why Fiducia Supplicant was released and approved by the Vicar of Christ – to make the implicit to explicit about blessing. In what document where it is illicit to bless a couple? I can find a document that defines and categorizes blessings – The Fiducia Supplican.
Just ask any priest on this if the church indeed rejected these prior 2023. This is because his authority comes from Jesus Christ whose teaching is clear on the matter. How are we sure of this utter rejection of behavior/relation?
Some bishops will not bless same-sex couples if it will bring scandal to their flock, that is fine because that what Fiducia is saying anyway.
In Romans 1, Paul attributes the homosexual desires of some to a refusal to acknowledge and worship God. He says, “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct. . . . Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them” (Rom. 1:26–28, 32). The church simply cant bless what the Lord Jesus Christ specifically condemned himself as St Paul articulated.
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Precisely why many cardinals and bishops even priests opposed fiducia supplicans.
Many does not mean we follow the many and they rule. Actually they don’t oppose but they opted not to bless same-sex couple because they were given prerogative by the Fidicia Supplican.
Those against it are faithful to Christ.
Those approving of it are faithful to the pope. It is actually tragic this boils down to this, that our own pope is approving something not in keeping with our catholic doctrine. It is actually tragic that well meaning catholics are pitted against each other. What can we rightly do as faithful in light with this?
This statement does not make sense. You cannot separate the Pope from Christ. You can separate Bishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio not sitting ex-cathedra. He may utter heresy but nobody in earth can judge him but only by the succedding Pope can condemn his heretical statements or documents.
Many argue that we stay silent on fiducia supplicans as it can undermine our unity in the church.
But who are we pleasing with this posture, God or man? You mean we rather consider men of shaky faith than God himself?
Of course we do not keep silent. We pray, pray, pray and spread those prayers that the Church unity cannot be shaken but istead you are spreading lies and conspiracy theories that bring confusions to the faithful. You even post you opinions on groups that were originally political in nature and created for ex VP Lenis Movement. Let our bishops who are more theologically deep into this and settle this matter in a manner and venue the Church was doing before -synod or council.
Those with shaky faith are easily scandalize and leave the church at the slightest of excuse. But instead if we allow this move proceeds unchecked, we may end up losing also good catholics who will likewise be scandalized of the church seemingly accomodation of gay agenda.
This is exactly the point. Please stop spreading this theological arguments with your own opinion on places and groups where cafeteria catholics , non-catholics, atheist etc are present. As catechized catholics, we do not allow wrong and personal interpretation. There are a lot of people in social media pretending to be traditional catholics but schismatic (like Sedevantists) that rides on the bandwagon, hurt the universal Church and cause schism and worse Protestanism.
When we protest of this, we protest in behalf of the church, not against the church.
We protest the pollution of her magisterium which should remain faithful to Christ’s as it is for 2000 yrs. We protest to protect her as the bride of Christ. If it seems we go against the pope here, it is not per se disobedience as many love to highlight. Rather it is obedience to Jesus Christ whose will on the matter is clearly expounded by St Paul.
Are you now a Protestant? Schimatic? All the Christian faithful are obliged to observe the constitutions and decrees which the legitimate authority of the Church issues in order to propose doctrine and to proscribe erroneous opinions, particularly those which the Roman Pontiff or the college of bishops puts forth. (Can. 754)
So yeah lets pray for the pope here that the Holy Spirit may stir him to correct and rebuke fiducia supplicans. It is being abused as of date with the vatican itself flooded with request that their sodomite relationships be blessed there, by the pope himself.
Amen and let us pray. However, this is a pure sarcarm, hipocrisy and I see no humility here but hatred. How could you say that statement where in fact the blessing should only be spontaneous not planned. Where did you get this information? You may provide evidence but no conspiracy theories, please.
Sa mga pro fiducia, dont act like were a cult here. If were properly cathecized, alam natin may mali dito. And to priests who swallow this line sinker and all, know that your allegiance is to Christ himself.
So process check nyo lang mga padre.
So you are saying the Catholic Bishop Conference of the Philippines and USCCB and all the priest who acted on their guidance about the Fiducia are acting like a cult.
For the faithful:
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. (Ephesians 5:11)For the priests:
And now, you priests, this warning is for you. If you do not listen, and if you do not resolve to honor my name,” says the Lord Almighty, “I will send a curse on you, and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me. (Malachi 2:1-2)
Mary Mother of God, pray for us.
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Paradox is a noun with several nuanced definitions that address the way we use contradictions to make a point when we speak. Paradox is also a rhetorical device that can mean a statement that is self-contradictory. On the other hand, An oxymoron is a figure of speech that combines contradictory words with opposing meanings, like “old news,” “deafening silence,” or “organized chaos.”
Read the following statements whether it is an oxymoron or a paradox.
